Catalogacion de Armas Juan L Calvo website (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-07-01. • ^ Gangarosa, Gene, jnr. Spanish Handguns: The History of Spanish Pistols and revolvers. Catalogacion de Armas Juan L Calvo website. Retrieved 2009-07-05. • Spanish for 'flame' • Carbines for Collectors-Smith, • Carbines for Collectors-Smith, [ ] • ^ Harold A.
May 8, 2013 - I am trying to figure out the exact model and vintage of this Llama 45. Any help would be great. Liked: 275 times. Looked it up in my Standard Catalog of Handguns. 5 digit serial number that starts with 'A' Safety plunger. May 13, 2011 - Where appropriate to assist in the management of firearms. • To produce. Serial Number. Year Manufacture.
Guns Illustrated 1978. Follet Publishing. • ^ Harold A.
Guns Illustrated 1984.
Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products.
I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (early 1930s?). To start, these are some numbers I have. Please list model name/number, caliber, year code (if available) and serial number.
'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. Although mine has a date code of V (1951), it has a grip safety. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion.
The serial number is 1471xx which would put it around 2000 after yours. The slide has a rounded top with no sight ramp.
It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold. I will change the designation on the database list. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. Regards, Cal44. I am researching a mark on my.380 Llama with serial number 6XXXX. On the right side just below the serial number is G.C in a circle. The letters are scroll.
From my research, I think this is a German distributor, but I don't think it is Geco. Once site gave a differant mark for Gustav Genschow and coompany of Berlin an ammunition manufacturer who also made some rifles, mostly.22 Another site suggested that it might be the mark of the Spanish manufaturer, but that mark does not appear on most of the small frame Llamas that I have seen. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. This particular pistol was Nazi marked and the seller gave the name of the company that the mark belonged to, but I can't remember it. The winning bid was over $900.
The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. That being the case, I would think it very rare as it is the first I have seen. The germans 'adopted' many commercial pistols to equip their military, Belgian, Polish, Italian etc., but I have never seen a commercial Llama.
I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. Let me know about the springs.
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Catalogacion de Armas Juan L Calvo website (in Spanish). Retrieved 2009-07-01. • ^ Gangarosa, Gene, jnr. Spanish Handguns: The History of Spanish Pistols and revolvers. Catalogacion de Armas Juan L Calvo website. Retrieved 2009-07-05. • Spanish for 'flame' • Carbines for Collectors-Smith, • Carbines for Collectors-Smith, [ ] • ^ Harold A.
May 8, 2013 - I am trying to figure out the exact model and vintage of this Llama 45. Any help would be great. Liked: 275 times. Looked it up in my Standard Catalog of Handguns. 5 digit serial number that starts with 'A' Safety plunger. May 13, 2011 - Where appropriate to assist in the management of firearms. • To produce. Serial Number. Year Manufacture.
Guns Illustrated 1978. Follet Publishing. • ^ Harold A.
Guns Illustrated 1984.
Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products.
I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (early 1930s?). To start, these are some numbers I have. Please list model name/number, caliber, year code (if available) and serial number.
'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. Although mine has a date code of V (1951), it has a grip safety. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion.
The serial number is 1471xx which would put it around 2000 after yours. The slide has a rounded top with no sight ramp.
It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold. I will change the designation on the database list. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. Regards, Cal44. I am researching a mark on my.380 Llama with serial number 6XXXX. On the right side just below the serial number is G.C in a circle. The letters are scroll.
From my research, I think this is a German distributor, but I don't think it is Geco. Once site gave a differant mark for Gustav Genschow and coompany of Berlin an ammunition manufacturer who also made some rifles, mostly.22 Another site suggested that it might be the mark of the Spanish manufaturer, but that mark does not appear on most of the small frame Llamas that I have seen. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. This particular pistol was Nazi marked and the seller gave the name of the company that the mark belonged to, but I can't remember it. The winning bid was over $900.
The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. That being the case, I would think it very rare as it is the first I have seen. The germans 'adopted' many commercial pistols to equip their military, Belgian, Polish, Italian etc., but I have never seen a commercial Llama.
I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. Let me know about the springs.